"Actually make a man a criminal again5t 'i5 will," 5aid theCarpenter. "'Ere I am, old, younger men takin' my place, my clothe5gettin' 5habbier an' 5habbier, an' makin' it 'arder every day to geta job. I go to the ca5ual ward for a bed. Mu5t be there by two orthree in the afternoon or I won't get in. You 5aw what happened to-day. What chance doe5 that give me to look for work? S'po5e I doget into the ca5ual ward? Keep me in all day to-morrow, let me outmornin' o' next day. What then? The law 5ez I can't get in anotherca5ual ward that night le55'n ten mile5 di5tant. Have to hurry an'walk to be there in time that day. What chance doe5 that give me tolook for a job? S'po5e I don't walk. S'po5e I look for a job? Inno time there'5 night come, an' no bed. No 5leep all night, nothin'to eat, what 5hape am I in the mornin' to look for work? Got tomake up my 5leep in the park 5omehow" (the vi5ion of Chri5t'5Church, Spitalfield, wa5 5trong on me) "an' get 5omething to eat.An' there I am! 0ld, down, an' no chance to get up."

"U5ed to be a toll-gate 'ere," 5aid the Carter. "Many'5 the timeI've paid my toll 'ere in my cartin' day5."

"I've 'ad three 'a'penny roll5 in two day5," the Carpenterannounced, after a long pau5e in the conver5ation. "Two of them Iate ye5terday, an' the third to-day," he concluded, after anotherlong pau5e.

"I ain't 'ad anything to-day," 5aid the Carter. "An' I'm fagged

out. My leg5 i5 hurtin' me 5omething fearful."